Flat Earth vs. Round Earth | Explorer

you think that with the beautiful
photographs that we have of our round blue planet it would convince any
doubters but there are still some who insist that the world is flat
correspondent Mariana van Zeller discovers more about this fast growing
movement in California I’m Mariana van Zeller and I’m in Southern California to
look into a growing movement in America people who claim the earth is flat they
call themselves the flat earthers and we’re here to try to understand what’s
behind this unconventional view and how it can affect the rest of us so what’s happening here today why are
you here this matters to me flattered that shows you that you are
not a mistake and you were created and so you have meaning in matter – we’re
not monkeys floating through space on the false maxim that testable it’s not
measurable it’s not provable it’s not real how old are you guys just out of
curiosity do you think it’s a growing movement yes and we’re networking and
getting stronger people are realizing it it’s coming out in the media you’re
hearing the term flatter this is becoming more normal people are more
open-minded to it he’s not wrong a recent survey of Americans found that
two percent believe the earth is flat for the US population as a whole
that works out to be over 6.5 million people
even high profile artists and athletes are getting on board I want to try to find Mart sergeant
who’s one of the leaders of the Flat Earth community
nice to see you man mark used to design video games and run software trainings
now he devotes himself full-time to promoting the Flat Earth with all the
attention that you must be Mark Sargent I am Mark Sargent
thanks for meeting us here it’s a pleasure to be here so tell me what is
this movement all about this movement is about changing the world literally you
think for the longest time that you live here but what if it wasn’t this what if
this was just the illusion yeah we’re gonna open this thing up and the reality
look something like this in a nutshell you have North Pole at the centre the
continents splayed out organically on the sides
Antarctica is stretched around the entire outer edge like an ice ball the
Sun in the morning are very very small and the stars are just lights in the sky
a giant planet area which means is built by somebody someone bigger than us
someone better than us do you think it was a god not my place to say your
belief in the earth being flat flies in the face hundreds of the world not only
that we have satellite imagery we have photos from space and nobody here
believes any of that anymore so you don’t believe that people travel in
space no oh it’s much worse than you know meaning the only reason NASA was
founded in 1958 was to keep this thing under wraps as best they could be big
think of the shockwaves if all of a sudden you’re telling a civilization
that this model this is an it anymore flatters is the last conspiracy anyone
ever looks at mark and his fellow flat earther seem to be pretty convinced that
the earth is flat and that we’ve all been lied to for all these years but I’m
interested in knowing what impact this might have not only for science but for
society at large so we’re heading to meet with an astrophysicist that we hope
can answer some of these questions the universe began about fourteen billion
years ago an event that we call the Big Bang james bullock is a professor of
physics and astronomy at the University of California Irvine he specializes in
how galaxies formed did you ever think a few years ago that you’d be having this
discussion for National Geographic it’s frankly shocking we’ve known for 2,000
years based on observations you can make with your own eyes that the world is
round they have all the evidence right in
front of them and they still choose not to believe in it you know who knows what
motivates people from the inside to believe these things but science is
important science is valuable science saves lives it makes our lives better
and more comfortable and it enriches us intellectually and to question what
scientists are saying and suggested they’re part of some massive
international global conspiracy it’s really scary are they a threat to the
work that you do as a scientist if say government stop funding science the
cause of some kind of anti science anti intellectual feedback they’re getting
from the populace that’s when it really starts getting dangerous for our
civilization and as the war on science heats up some Americans are fighting
back we’re heading to the largest lake in California to meet the independent
investigations group which is a group that essentially debunks paranormal
claims and they want to do a round earth task may that be a test that will prove
that the earth is not flat but that it is round let’s go we’re ready to launch
you ready Craig ok so what’s happening here right now okay this is the boat
base target it’s horizontal stripes we’re gonna launch a small boat out into
the water here with a striped target and as it gets farther and farther out
you’ll start to lose the stripes one way that Aristotle proved 2,000 years ago
that the earth is a sphere was with a boat’s test very similar to this one as
a boat approaches the horizon it appears to slowly dip down into the water before
disappearing completely that’s got everything to do with the curvature of
the earth if the planet was flat the entire boat would remain visible so
it’ll be a very visual depiction of the curvature of the earth and what’s really
interesting is that some of the flat earthers including mark sergeant’s are
actually going to be here for this test they want to see it for themselves what
do you think is gonna happen here today I appreciate the scientific group coming
out and trying to do this test great appreciate the enthusiasm but cannot
work can’t work yeah okay so the test is starting the test it’s starting right
now at first all the stripes are clearly visible but sure enough as the boat
reaches the horizon the stripes begin to disappear one by one it’s pretty amazing
you can actually see it really clearly with this camera here and you see that
the red stripe cuz that was at the bottom has completely disappeared and
it’s now getting closer to sort of the middle
Green we’ve lost about one and a half stripes so this can only happen white
because of the curvature of the earth but mark Sargent and the other
flat-earthers have a very different interpretation of
the results so you don’t think that what we’re seeing is actually real you think
it’s because oh yeah here in flat earth believe it’s a globe mister
demonstration that doesn’t change anyone Korea Lord no mark do you really believe
this stuff tell me the truth I’m serious right absolutely 100%
believe we are not on a globe we are part of a giant studio set all the
world’s a stage and you’re on it I still don’t understand that like who’s gaining
from all this from this larger exclusive the highest authority higher than
presidents this super-rich people that are behind the scenes remember the first
rule of powers stay hidden so this is for me where I think it gets really
dangerous because we’re going back into the dark ages all right you’re
essentially perpetuating ignorance by denying science you know there’s a
real-life implication in all of this science has had its chance and they
aren’t putting up a defense I think that the flat earth could potentially uh sure
in a new golden age or it could assure in an age of chaos it’s easy to dismiss this as just a
silly theory and unimportant but the problem is that is a growing movement in
America more and more young people seem to believe that the world is flat and
you know it’s more than just distrust and government it’s this notion that
thousands of years of empirical scientific evidence is now being
dismissed as a mere conspiracy and that’s where I think it really starts
getting dangerous for all of us

100 Replies to “Flat Earth vs. Round Earth | Explorer”

  1. For many years, people have clashed on whether the Earth is flat or round. What are your thoughts on this heated debate?

  2. Former CIA Director William Casey: "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false"

  3. Dangerous to have an opposite opinion? Really? Who are you? A dictator? And as u said, the proof is in our eyes…did u EVER think that the water levels itself ALWAYS AND EVERYWHERE? Do some research, get some knowledge and stop being a parrot. But ofcourse, u getting paid! Wake up and smell the coffee!

  4. The real question is if the American educational system failed, or if the US government made its citizens distrust them so much that they, by default, dont belive anything any government institution (in this case NASA) says.
    Both are cause for concern.

  5. I'm not saying it's flat but… or eyes and the lenses are rounded… send so are the lenses on every camera on earth… if our eyes were flat would that help some this? If our eyes were concave would the earth be a bowl or a doughnut? What do you think? I'm open… thank you for your time and consideration in this matter… respectfully. Michael Conner

  6. You notice the globalist think it's dangerous to have a different opinion on the shape of the earth, That's because of a AGENDA. Flat earthers simply go by physical evaluation, Not theory. This example was so stupid, If a more powerful telescope was used you would have seen the horizontal flag perfectly. AGENDA! Why do we have the Artic no fly zone with every country of power signed to it's agreement.? By the way the ONLY agreement ever kept by different countries. This argument could be COMPLETELY resolved (Because of the danger of it's nature) by simply allowing people to explore the Artic by flight, In no time the absolute proof would be acknowledged, With no tricks, Theories, or opinions. The only downfall to NASA would be the recognition of earth and it's people the center of the universe, There for GOD exist. This is the DANGER their talking about.

  7. California IQ has fallen to below 95. Lower that 47 other states. They are pooping in the sidewalk in San Francisco. They don't have the intellectual capacity to evaluate evidence so they swallow the BS.

  8. There is no way people actually believe the earth is flat, I can't believe, or wrap my head around this, but it does explain why alien UFOs are flat

  9. We live on a small plane; hence the term planet
    (Small to whom?)
    Which is why there is an up and there is a down
    We are not "matter," WE MATTER
    Science is real; however,
    Scientism is a hoax for control used to strip morals and mentally enslave
    Study history told from the perspectives of all cultures non racists
    Do not blindly trust without your own personal experience and scientific measurement
    Do not criticize others for not seeing what you see

  10. 2000 years ago? But only less than 500 years ago civilization have drawings of dome shaped earth's that test they did was weak lol doesnt really prove the curvature of the earth supposeply the earth curves 6in per mile an a half

  11. There should be a battle between flat earthers vs hollow earthters . . . When 2 stupidity fight each other then there will be no more problem .

    Its like a magnet 2 of the same poles negate one another

  12. If someone told me the earth is flat I would not argue with them I would ignore them and then tell them they are wrong and then when the argument gets heated I would kill them

  13. So ridiculous. The people are not only fools, they're indecent. There's just no human way to fight indecent fools. I am sure you could take one of them, put him on skype live with his flat-earther friend in Australia, so that they would see by themselves that day and night can and do occur simultaneously in two different points of the globe, and still they would find a way to say it's "faked" and "staged". Simply demential.

  14. Storm the Icewall!! Calling all flat-earthers, scrap your current plans and gather your torches and cameras for we shall storm the icewall, confront "they", and finally show those globe-earthers proof of our beloved icewall!

    Tentative date for Storm the Icewall is early 2020, make that April, early April, very early April.

  15. why can't we just be more united while we're here on Earth and do sth building this world in stead of wasting our time & (zombie) brains fighting for power & control in bigger scale? This is scary than any movie :'(

  16. Nurse: “Sir, you’ve been in a coma since 1980… it’s now 2019.”
    Coma Guy: “Cool, I can’t wait to see all the scientific and cultural advancements!”
    Nurse: “Some people now believe the Earth is flat…”
    Coma Guy: “Can you put me back in the coma?”

  17. My Grandad once told me he went out to space using his ford capri, chilli peppers and lots of springs from an old trampoline. He got back OK thanks to his motorbike helmet and a cluster of cardboard boxes that had some old popcorn in them. He said the earth was cube shaped at the edges with a kind of fuzzy hole around a blue and green sausage shaped side. At least on one side anyway. I know he was telling the truth as he said he never lied. The photos were a bit blury but you could definitely make out our house as it lost its tail sliding backwards from the start. I'll never forget his smell.

  18. Also, that boat test is not valid. We cannot see the curvature of the earth especially in a lake. That would mean the earth is waaaaaaaaay smaller than it is. Which it is not.

  19. Go one way till you make it back if you fall off the world the earth is flat if you make the whole way around and back the earth is round

  20. Has anyone ever considered that the globe may be a little bigger then mainstream science have been telling us. There has been many benefits throughout history to falsify maps in wartime's

  21. Well saying that it's KNOWN for 2000 years that the earth is round, is not correct. Yes, 2000 years ago, scientists found it out, but in the middle ages literally nobody believed it cause they believed in the bible. Right now it's about 500 years that people believe the "round earth" again. It wasn't believed ALL the time and also not THAT easily. It's crazy though how; NOW, after 500 years with more evidende, people are starting to believe this again..

  22. You can tell by marks face he doesn't truly believe in it himself… His eyes and body language gives him away.. Every time she asks him the questions on the beach either he looks away, deflects the questions or answers a few looking away with that embarrassment towards the crowd that actually believe in it.. All the while his eyes say 1 thing yes those morons believr in something so ridiculous and jeez im ptetending to be one of those fools.. There are many ways to tell when someone's lying.. Mark sargent Most obviously certainly Definetly lying he doesn't belive in a flat earth himself. Is All sbout money for him. Buti appreciate his conviction inspite the continuous ridicule he plays his part with PART sincerity

  23. Es gibt nur eine Autorität!!! Gott selbst sagt das er über dem Kreis der Erde Wohnt, ein Kreis kann demnach Niemals eine Kugel sein Niemals!!! Die Erde wie Gott sie schuf ist Flach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. I love how she interviews the Astro Physicist near the ocean and it shows the flat horizon in the background and wide angle show shows no lateral curve

  25. notice flat earthers are very zealous. mark sargent and nathan thompson are prime examples. they literally have no positive empirical evidence they're paranoid delusional psychopaths. call it what it is these people are grifters and gaslighters its about monetized channels on youtube.

  26. flat earthers on youtube are grifters and conmen. its about making money for them. take someone like "the morgile" (moreguile) a flat earther that regularly begs for money on his youtube platform dedicated to flat earth.

  27. 8:15 "DoEs AnYoNe In FlAt EaRtH gRoUp BeLiEvE tHe EaRtH iS a GlObe?". That's like me going to an atheist discord server and asking if god is real.

  28. Sorry who said thousand years!!!! Only 150 years ago the whole world they used to believe is the earth centre of universe……

  29. Oh no!The technic for everyone….create were strange questions!And the story makers ara all from the same club.since galilio Kopernius and the Gang

  30. She speaks of 'danger?' No, it's called Truth. Nasa faked the first moon landing. The Ancients were correct. The earth was and is flat. It certainly isn't a spinning globe. Interesting that she has such a serious, concerned look on her face but if she knew the truth behind the scenes all these decades – now that would put a serious, concerned look on her face but she will be one of the last to know that the earth is not a spinning ball, because her, along with millions of others, will need it proven to them in documents and literal visuals – real ones. The day will come when the truth will be revealed and then they won't look at us as crazy. They'll realise that it was them who were slow to believe and do their research.

  31. Why won't the all mighty NASA or SpaceX put this to rest with a live camera feed of the Earth in its entirety?

    The fact that they don't tells you all you need to know. There is nothing to debate or analyze or prove.

    Show us the live feed. It's Damm near 2020. They waste billions allegedly sending probes to Mars. Drop off a camera along the way.

  32. The earth is round but spinning in a giant turtle’s mouth, half is night because that half is inside the mouth, and the other half is facing the sun

  33. Flat? Round?
    I honestly dont care. Lol
    But I'm only here cause it's interesting to see what others think and see people arguing about weather the earth Is flat or round xD

  34. I came here out of curiosity and I cannot believe that anyone would such absolute rubbish. Another good reason to get rid of religion. All these flat earthers are taking the bible literally. It’s like the world is going backward.

    And these people actually believe that they know better than the science which has brought us so much and saved so many lives with modern medicine.

    This kind of delusional thinking is dangerous four children.

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